Everything was looking fine while trying to revive a single 3.7V Li-ion cell with my probably safe(*) method. Cell and voltage regulator were warm to touch, but it's also pretty cold in here these days (20°C in the room). When I disconnected the constant voltage source the measured voltage was 3.6V or so, showing a revived cell. My "procedure" calls for further checks of the open-circuit voltage,whenever I pass by the shack.
Thirty minutes after removing the charging current ... voltage across the cell was 0V and it was warm! Obviously it was self-discharging fast, producing heat. I moved the battery outside on a flameproof surface and let it exhaust the charge before hitting (gently!) the battery recycle bin.
(*) Feeding the cell with 4.0x Volts for 15-30 minutes while monitoring the current consumption to be (well) below 1 Ampere. This procedure should not (further) damage the cell and/or risk to set it on fire. YMMV.
27 May 2013
21 May 2013
|Three packs at different stages of dismantling|
In this post I will show how these three packs look like. Inside a pack there are 8 cells, in parallel 2-by-2 (marked in violet). Hidden on one side there are a lot of electronics and taped between two cells a thermocouple.
|Zooming in pack internals.|
In pack #2 at reachable joints I could measure some 3.6V, so perhaps these cells do not need a restoring current. Disassembling is next.
Cells from pack #1 still hold the partial charge and I am optimistic they can be turned into a set of working battery packs.... when the balanced charger will arrive.
15 May 2013
I have been curious for a while about Lithium based rechargable batteries, and how I could get to play with them without investing too much money. Yesterday I was given three identical exhausted HP laptop batteries, marked to be 14.4V 4400 mAh, Li-ion. Not having a way to try a recharge, a disassemble was strictly necessary.
Those batteries even have 5 LEDs that show the charge level, and of course they were reported as dead. Once open I was presented a series of two elements in parallel, 4 each: 4s2p, and a lot of electronics.
Meanwhile I had read something about these batteries at batteryuniversity dot com and I learned that:
- to protect cells from overdischarge, then internal circuitry disables the cell, resulting in 0V across the poles; the cell can be reactivated with a charge current
- Li-ion cells can be recharged with a constant voltage not higher than 4.20V, with a high current, even equal to C [cell's capacity], for the right amount of time
Each of my eight cells, left uncharged for an indefinite amount of time, measured 0V. So far so good. I threw together a 4.04V 2A voltage source and, while monitoring current (DVM in the picture) and voltage (analog voltmeter, not in the picture), I started charging each cell one-by-one for 30-45 minutes: in my opinion this is a safe time that does not pose the risk of (literally) blowing the cell. YMMV.
First cell went fine. After the initial 1.5A spike, it charged at 400 mA (and decreasing, 310mA on the DVM at picture time). After 45 minutes it had reached 3.8V and held it for hours with a slight decrease to 3.7V. Looks good.
Second cell was a surprise, since it initially behaved as the first but then went short circuit! Since it was unattended, I found a pretty warm regulator and cell when I checked in 10 minutes. Current was 3.5A. Maybe this cell was the faulty one in this battery pack?
Lesson learned: add a (resettable) fuse in line so that cells can be left unattended and, if they go short circuit, nothing blows or melts.
Third cell was better too. I will continue with the 45 minutes cycle to see if I can revive these cells. Having 3x8 = 24 potential Li-ion cells for free is interesting, but most important I can learn something new.